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Post by The Dankness on Apr 17, 2008 22:38:29 GMT -8
Recently, a petition was put online with the purpose of stopping Uwe Boll from making movies. He declared that if the petition got 1,000,000 signatures, he would concede and quit film making altogether. His rant can be found here: www.iwatchstuff.com/2008/04/uwe_boll_wants_proboll_petitio.phpHe also, however, said that he expects someone to start a pro-boll thread, and if it get's a million signature's, he will go on making movies. Now, we all know how much his movies suck. We don't need to see them, it's just general knowledge. Anyone who knows anything about him, however, will know how badass he is. I mean, he challenged the critics who ragged on his movies to boxing matches! Here's a clip of one of the fights, and keep in mind, this guy he's fighting is an amateur boxer himself (or so he claims). youtube.com/watch?v=E8Pr31zfKcgAnyway, as crappy as his films are, I've never seen a filmmaker quite as passionate about making films as Mr. Boll. I encourage you all to sign the Pro-Boll petition and help out everyone's favorite trash-talking, beer-drinking, lederhosen-wearing director who funds his films with nazi gold. www.petitiononline.com/ub221965/petition.htmlI was gonna post the link to the anti-Boll petition as well, but if ya'all wanna post against the Boll, then you can find it yourselves, foos.
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Post by Inaaca on Apr 17, 2008 22:58:33 GMT -8
What has he made?
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Post by The Dankness on Apr 17, 2008 23:02:39 GMT -8
Well his video game adaptations (which is what he's known for) are House of the Dead, Bloodrayne, Alone in the Dark, Bloodrayne 2, Postal, and In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale. He also has like five or six new movies in the making right now.
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Post by The Dankness on Apr 17, 2008 23:09:19 GMT -8
Heh, an interesting tidbit: If you go to the Far Cry (one of Uwe's latest projects) imdb page, Stuttering Craig and Handsome Tom from Screwattack (who play extras in the movie) are actually listed in the credits. Craig Skistimas and Thomas Hanley. Heh, awesome. www.imdb.com/title/tt0400426/
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 18, 2008 0:46:37 GMT -8
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Post by Dragoondachemist on Apr 18, 2008 9:07:26 GMT -8
The anti is 200,000 strong and I just signed it while the pro is almost 2000 strong. I think the people have spoken. I think the pro petition would hurt my feelings more than the anti petition. Its sucks when people don't like you, but when no one likes you at all that sucks even more.
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Post by The Dankness on Apr 18, 2008 9:47:03 GMT -8
The thing is, you have to realize why I'm pro-Boll. he's one of the few directors out there who actually makes films for the love of making films. Like Adrian once said, so many directors out there are so hung up on winning awards, they forget to make their movies unique.
Look at Ron Howard. He used to make badass movies. Willow, an exciting fantasy adventure movie with monsters, black magic, and crazy sword fights. Cocoon, a drama about mortality that also happens to be a science fiction story. Splash, a romantic comedy with a mermaid.
Look at his recent pictures. A Beautiful Mind, a drama. The Missing, a suspense/drama. Cinderella Man, a drama. The Da Vinci Code, a cash-in on a bestselling book. Academy Award fodder. Very well-made movies, yes, but nothing special.
Uwe Boll makes the movies that he wants to make, loves them, and doesn't give a rat's ass what anyone else thinks. I think anyone who would want to go so far as to literally stop him from doing what he loves isn't looking hard enough at the big picture.
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Apr 18, 2008 11:32:55 GMT -8
Oh, man I see the beginning of a long hard discussion.
Anyway, just to make things clear I'm Anti-Boll. The way you put it, it seems that being Anti-Boll is somewhat like being Anti-American, considering that Anti-Bollers want to restrict his freedom to make movies. But it's more than that, it's about protecting the things WE love: video games. Sure, he hasn't made anything that we are really into yet, but do you really want to live with that fear? Seriously, he's a video-game IP terrorist. Sooner or later, he's gonna highjack the shit you love.
But there's more to it than that, something that I strongly believe movies should be and what some movies are: Great Art. I believe in good movies, and I think everyone does. Seeing a good movie is the reason we go to the movies, and seeing a good movie based on something else we love is even better.
It's the reason Warner Bros. completely threw away the last two Batman movies of the original Tetralogy and decided to start again, with a GOOD director they can trust. Christopher Nolan also loves making movies, and over the past years he's given us some amazing ones: Memento, The Prestige, Batman Begins. Mind you, those were all things he WANTED to do.
He's not alone either, there's a lot of good directors out there that love what they do and are good at it, AND make their own movies. Quentin Tarantino, Neil Marshall, Zack Snyder, etc. And people don't want to make them stop making movies because they are GOOD at it. And they make some pretty unique ones too, which is something that Uwe Boll fails to do, he just makes CRAP.
Sure, he may LOVE doing it, but it's no different telling him to stop than telling an aspiring singer, who love what they are doing, that he or she are just no good. Just like we don't want to hear their ugly ass vocals, we don't want to see Boll's ugly ass movies. Uwe Boll is the new Ed Wood, I'm happy for the guy.
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 18, 2008 13:13:47 GMT -8
Both of them seem pretty far away from their goal. Looks like status quo will be maintained.
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Post by The Dankness on Apr 18, 2008 13:25:55 GMT -8
I'd kinda agree with the whole "sooner or later he's gonna frick up a game we love" point, but really, how many good game movies have there been? The only one I can think of off-hand would be Mortal Kombat, and even some people would debate that. It isn't just Boll making crappy game movies. EVERYBODY who makes game movies is making crappy ones.
Paul W.S. Anderson is the closest thing we have to a savior, but that's ONLY because he made Mortal Kombat. The Resident Evil movies? Not so good.
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Post by Inaaca on Apr 18, 2008 17:25:15 GMT -8
I'd kinda agree with the whole "sooner or later he's gonna frick up a game we love" point, but really, how many good game movies have there been? The only one I can think of off-hand would be Mortal Kombat, and even some people would debate that. It isn't just Boll making crappy game movies. EVERYBODY who makes game movies is making crappy ones. That's true, but if I understand things correctly, Uwe is making the worst, and is focused on game movies specifically. Saying that he's not the only one making bad video game movies isn't saying much. A win on the anti poll would reduce the amount of them. With that said, I'm feeling rather neutral. I can strongly relate to both Andrew's and Adrian's points, and agree with each of them for different reasons. Because of this, I feel no real desire to side for or against him until one of two factors change: either he starts making better movies (pushing me toward pro) or he stops making movies for the love of it (pushing me into anti). If he does both, I'd probably still be neutral, but enjoy his movies.
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 18, 2008 20:12:10 GMT -8
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE PRO-BOLL
DEAD TO ME
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Post by The Dankness on Apr 18, 2008 23:18:20 GMT -8
Aw, c'mon.
He's funny.
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 19, 2008 3:00:05 GMT -8
There's a difference between "in reflection upon his character" and "sitting through his god-awful films." YOU CALLED PAUL W. S. ANDERSON A SAVIOR! I don't care if you get into film making because you want to feed starving AIDS-ridden children in Africa or whatever, if you shit on my eyes with your films then you have shat on my eyes! Such cheesy acting, such predictable angles, such boring scripts. I judge an artist by his/her art as I expect any craftsman to be held to his/her craft. Uwe Boll sucks at film making, end of story. If you were asked to keep on of the two, would you choose Takashi Miike or Uwe Boll? Do you think the skill of one is diminished by the popularity of the other? I would hope so.
BUT I'M TALKING TO A CORPSE SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. D:<
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Post by Kuat on Apr 19, 2008 7:46:52 GMT -8
Bad with the TV! Bad with the movie! Uwe Boll should make films as long as he finds it economically viable. As to your example, what you did is go to "shit on my eyes: the musical". You knew it would suck (or should have given reviews and his prior history), the title clues you in to the nature of the film (i.e. shitting on your eyes, which is equivalent to every video game movie), and there is no signs that you should expect anything other than a shit fest. Yet you complain when you leave with e. coli retinitis secondary to shit in the eyes, when you knew full well the outcome. Go back and listen to Too-foodle and Tannabinoids, or whatever band your listening to at this moment, as WE DON'T NEED YOU HERE IN BOLL COUNTRY! ... ... ... ... (I hate this post and you should too)
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 19, 2008 16:42:05 GMT -8
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Post by Inaaca on Apr 19, 2008 16:48:41 GMT -8
The City of Heroes one sounds intriguing.
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 19, 2008 16:54:15 GMT -8
If they can make a City of Heroes movie, I'd like to see someone make a Mystery Men MMORPG. I think it would work out quite well, given the nature of MMOs.
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 20, 2008 19:52:00 GMT -8
there is no signs that you should expect anything other than a shit fest. Yet you complain when you leave with e. coli retinitis secondary to shit in the eyes, when you knew full well the outcome. Hence why I avoid video game movies like the plague and support any efforts to remove them from the world. Contrary to popular ticket sales, I am not a masochist.
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 20, 2008 19:55:41 GMT -8
City of Heroes would have made a great cartoon tv show in the 80's. Today's cartoon aesthetics can't handle such unbridled (sometimes too much so, i.e. He-Man) masculine heroism.
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