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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Mar 12, 2010 20:49:36 GMT -8
There is a dearth of rap in this forum and there really needs to be some Wu-Tang enlightenment up in this bitch. Liquid Swords by Gza www.sendspace.com/file/0ahimkThroughout this album, you will hear samples from classic films like Shogun Assassin and references to Master of the Flying Guillotine. However, beyond how awesome that is already, the rapping is brilliant. While I would say this comes close to a perfect album, my particularly favorite section of the album is toward the end from "4th Chamber" to "I Gotcha Back." "Shadowboxin'" and "Investigative Reports" are my favorite tracks. 1. "Liquid Swords" Intro/chorus/backing vocals: RZA Verses: GZA Dialogue from Shogun Assassin 2. "Duel of the Iron Mic" Chorus: Ol' Dirty Bastard First verse: GZA Second verse: Masta Killa Third verse: Inspectah Deck Dialogue from Shogun Assassin 3. "Living in the World Today" Intro: RZA Chorus: GZA, Method Man Verses: GZA Dialogue from Dragon on Fire 4. "Gold" Intro: Method Man Verses/chorus: GZA 5. "Cold World" Chorus: Life First verse: GZA Second verse: Inspectah Deck Dialogue from Shogun Assassin 6. "Labels" 2:54 Intro: RZA Verses: GZA 7. "4th Chamber" First verse: Ghostface Killah Second verse: Killah Priest Third verse: RZA Fourth verse: GZA Dialogue from Shogun Assassin 8. "Shadowboxin'" Intro/first verse/third verse: Method Man Second verse: GZA Dialogue from Shaolin Vs Lama 9. "Hell's Wind Staff / Killah Hills 10304" Intro: RZA, Masta Killa, Dreddy Kruger Verses: GZA 10. "Investigative Reports" Intro/chorus/outro: U-God First verse: Raekwon Second verse: GZA Third verse: Ghostface Killah 11. "Swordsman" GZA 12. "I Gotcha Back" Chorus/backing vocals: RZA Verses: GZA Dialogue from Shogun Assassin 13. "B.I.B.L.E. (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)" Killah Priest Producer: 4th Disciple |
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Post by Muramasa on Mar 13, 2010 1:04:15 GMT -8
Okay, I'll listen to it.
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Post by Muramasa on Mar 16, 2010 0:02:25 GMT -8
I've listened to it for a bit, and for me, it's really hard to say that I like or hate rap music because most of it is dependent on the lyrics, which I can never catch initially. It usually takes a ton of listens before I make a final decision, unless the tune is really catchy. That being said, I do like the sound of B.I.B.L.E (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) so far.
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Post by Kuat on Mar 16, 2010 10:02:42 GMT -8
The lyrics are pretty good, and I'm a sucker for well placed sound clips.
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However, I still can't appreciate it. We all listen for different reasons, however I listen to music because the way it makes me feel. I just don't have nor want the anger or resentment that rap caters to, and frankly I find it silly when a white guy in a Mercedes is blasting it out. Even the most humorous of rap can be said to have a confrontational style, and I don't subscribe to the issues behind it.
For the album, it's typical rap to me: some angry guy talking over a baseline with little accompaniment. At least this has more artistic integrity than that shitty auto-tune stuff, or the dance hall shit.
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Mar 16, 2010 13:26:03 GMT -8
Fair enough. It's impossible to expect all people to feel exactly the same way when it comes to any music. As for myself, this album doesn't sound angry or resentful at all. It's confrontational, I agree, but in the same sense that the samurai films are confrontational. It's either chill or badass, to me.
If you're still game, though, I can upload some rap that's very non-confrontational like A Tribe Called Quest, De La Soul, or Busdriver.
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Post by Kuat on Mar 17, 2010 9:35:16 GMT -8
Might as well, if you would be so kind.
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Mar 17, 2010 13:30:01 GMT -8
[rant] However, I still can't appreciate it. We all listen for different reasons, however I listen to music because the way it makes me feel. I just don't have nor want the anger or resentment that rap caters to, and frankly I find it silly when a white guy in a Mercedes is blasting it out. Even the most humorous of rap can be said to have a confrontational style, and I don't subscribe to the issues behind it. For the album, it's typical rap to me: some angry guy talking over a baseline with little accompaniment. At least this has more artistic integrity than that shitty auto-tune stuff, or the dance hall shit. [/rant] Ha, that's the same reason I listen to music Brian, l don't even listen to the lyrics about 90% of the time. Not that I don't hear the voice, its just that to me lyrics don't define a song. Although good or even great lyrics are appreciated, they're virtually unimportant. I found your statement about white people and rap music intriguing; it's interesting how people still attach a certain type of music to people that meet some kind of socio-cultural prerequisite. This isn't a reflection of judgement or anything, but just a curious observation. I kind of wish this would change. And just out of curiosity, what do you mean by "auto-tune stuff" and "dance hall shit"? |
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Post by Kuat on Mar 18, 2010 14:08:09 GMT -8
I found your statement about white people and rap music intriguing; it's interesting how people still attach a certain type of music to people that meet some kind of socio-cultural prerequisite. This isn't a reflection of judgement or anything, but just a curious observation. I kind of wish this would change. Note I said white guy (maybe I should say, with a full head of hair as well, and healthy) in a Mercedes. What the hell is that guy angry about? Now, what I can understand is if people like it aesthetically. I mean, I loath stuffed crust pizza, but I'm not going to take a stand on that, trying to draw some lines in the sand. I'm just engaging it at a level beyond "this sounds good", because that's the way I listen to music. I organize my music by mood, not artist. The music appropriately comes from the ghetto, a place that sucks. I can see why they would listen to that music because they are living in a concrete ass. It's dirty, crime ridden, overall aesthetically displeasing, the culture is not one to promote upward mobility, and may come from either broken or overworked homes. Put it this way: you can't walk around like we do in Tustin at like three in the morning. It pisses me off in the Bronx that I have an unofficial "curfew" imposed on me by a bunch of lawless assholes. Now imagine living your life there, and the intangible powers that be decide "no father for you" "here's your second rate education" "let's surround you with a culture that prioritizes crime over education" "you like your brother? Too bad!". To not acknowledge the intended audience is doing a disservice to why the music was born. The themes of "confrontation" "anger" and "melancholy" pervade the rap genre. Show me a song done in the rap style that does not have any of those three elements, and you'll have to admit that it's the exception that proves the rules, so to speak. Edit: I'll add a bit on why I added "white" as well as the fact that he was wealthy. If you are living in a country where the population at large doesn't look like you, it will generate a possible degree of discomfort. T-pain for "auto-tune", and someone like Beyonce/Kanye/whoeverelse for "dance hall shit" (You know, the music talking about dancing or sex or grinding against someone's leg). The music is both soulless and about as tasteful as McDonald's. |
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Mar 18, 2010 15:06:40 GMT -8
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Post by Kuat on Mar 18, 2010 20:58:59 GMT -8
First off, to some degree I like them all. Great picks, I'm appreciative you took your time to let me listen to them. In order of preference: Imaginary places is stuff I can listen to, it made me crack a smile and the sheer speed he rhymes to the rhythm was great. All caps and Award Tour are about equal, maybe leaning toward all caps because the awesome comic strip video that went with it and the pleasant background tune. Then again, I found award tour more catchy. Edit: On additional listens, I definitely like All Caps better, just because Award tour has that annoying part. Mathematics was OK, but the other three were more harmonious to me, this was closer to the other stuff I've heard. The beat was awesome, but the vocals didn't meld as great as the others. Again, thanks dude. Basically, I'd listen to Imaginary when doing chores, and All Caps and Award Tour to relax. From the related songs, I like this one: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR2BboZeLEw&NR=1Finally, award tour and all caps added something to my library that I don't usually have. Imaginary places is a lot like stuff from 'they might be giants' to me. |
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