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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 9, 2010 22:11:14 GMT -8
Well I don't mean that it should be taught in elementary school but rather at a high school level. I would probably have two courses: the first being an introduction to the topics of philosophy in a historical survey format and then perhaps the second would be a seminar class on contemporary topics.
Of course the classes wouldn't cover contemporary topics of academic philosophy but rather to familiarize them with the words and concepts of their other subjects as well as train their critical reasoning. I admit that I'm certainly not versed enough in public education to think that I know how to implement this but I do believe that some form of philosophy in high school, even as an elective, would go far in improving overall performance.
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Post by Kuat on Apr 9, 2010 23:22:36 GMT -8
It's a nice endpoint, but one that requires a lot more work on the foundation of education before any sort of effort will go anywhere. Think about your classmates, or even yourself at that age, in how students would approach a philosophy class. If even 5% of students were able to stay conscious, I'd declare that a rousing success. Trying to get kids to appreciate the value of percentages is hard enough, and that at least has immediate real world applications when you buy stuff.
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 10, 2010 0:48:27 GMT -8
Actually, my initial interest in philosophy was inspired by Mrs. Doyle psychology class. Of course, though, I may be biased as the subject does appeal to me just as any other subject X to another graduate (and how we hear them decry public illiteracy of X, not that they are false). Taught in the correct manner, which really isn't all that difficult considering the ubiquity of philosophy, I don't think it would necessarily be any more difficult for the average student than any other subject.
However, this is of course easy armchair conjecture and you're quite right that public education cannot simply be solved with another class shoved into the bedlam. It would require nothing less than to revive the idea of education for education's sake in American education which is a change in culture more than anything.
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Post by Kuat on Apr 10, 2010 11:02:19 GMT -8
It would require nothing less than to revive the idea of education for education's sake in American education which is a change in culture more than anything. Quoted for the lord's holy Truth. There is quite a bit to say about this, and I've been writing paragraphs and deleting them in a futile effort to convey some sort of idea (no seriously, this has taken me like 30 minutes). I'll end my suffering by just saying that to change that parameter, you'd need to change a great deal of other things. How one would go about this is anybody's guess. |
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 10, 2010 16:03:54 GMT -8
It would require nothing less than to revive the idea of education for education's sake in American education which is a change in culture more than anything. you'd need to change a great deal of other things. How one would go about this is anybody's guess. Yeah, I'd want to jump in, but these statements kinda sum up the entire ordeal with educational reform. From what I hear and see from media, a lot of solutions seem to devolve into meaningless finger pointing. Heh, perhaps the first start of reform is change societies mindset from a liability based form of problem solving? |
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Post by Kuat on Apr 10, 2010 16:28:09 GMT -8
Heh, perhaps the first start of reform is change societies mindset from a liability based form of problem solving? When society engages in critical thinking and problem solving on a frequent basis, we'd have no more problems. |
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Apr 16, 2010 9:48:06 GMT -8
A reaction to the new Scrabble rule that allows proper nouns to be played:
"An act of desperation by the makers, who have presumably noticed that not only can younger people not spell, read or write, they will cry off to their Playstations if asked to cope with the simple and necessary rule prohibiting proper nouns (because, of course, they don’t understand the difference between proper and common nouns and have a functional vocabulary of approximately thirteen nouns, which is pretty limiting in a Scrabble context). The logical next relaxation of this rule would be to allow players to play all seven letters at whim, just so long as the resulting word looks pretty or sounds phonetically interesting in the eyes of the individual. Incidentally, even under the new rules Jay-Z and N-Dubz, as quoted in the article, wouldn’t be acceptable, as there is no hyphen in Scrabble."
In response to the boldened type;
Yeah... it's called Ghetto Scrabble.
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 16, 2010 11:14:11 GMT -8
And further down the slippery slope, gibberish and communism!
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 16, 2010 11:37:37 GMT -8
Heh, it would be like playing Literati really.
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Apr 16, 2010 11:50:47 GMT -8
Does literati allow Proper nouns?
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 16, 2010 12:12:12 GMT -8
Literati allows everything. It's not supposed to, but for some reason it does.
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Apr 19, 2010 22:03:27 GMT -8
 The US needs to start building crazy futuristic looking cities like other countries. This is the Marina Bay in Singapore. |
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Apr 19, 2010 22:10:01 GMT -8
 This building is cool too. |
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Apr 19, 2010 22:11:31 GMT -8
 This is also what I'm talking about. Shit looks like it can take off. |
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Post by You probably can't touch this. on Apr 19, 2010 23:03:51 GMT -8
I'm so torn when it comes to architecture. On one hand, I am somewhat aesthetically conservative. All tweed jackets and what not. On the other hand, look at those fucking buildings. Reminds me of Command & Conquer. How awesome is that? I'm pretty sure the last one is a Ion Cannon Uplink building. I guess I would like a fusion of both classic and avant-garde but that's a very difficult thing to pull off.
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Post by Muramasa on Apr 20, 2010 0:45:11 GMT -8
If I were living in Command and Conquer world, I'd make a lot of the buildings like the second posted building. 100% orbital ion cannon evasion.
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Post by Kuat on Apr 26, 2010 15:39:59 GMT -8
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Post by Captain Galaxy on Apr 26, 2010 22:27:39 GMT -8
Very interesting article. Many thanks for posting. Up for discussion? Personally, I could help raise a child not my own IF this child was not actually conceived while I was married to the mother. Don't know how I would react if I had found out my wife had cheated on me, and the child was not mine.
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Post by Muramasa on May 1, 2010 23:18:45 GMT -8
Heh, I wished we could have saved that He-man Vs Thundercats thread.
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Post by Captain Galaxy on May 2, 2010 0:43:54 GMT -8
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